I wasted way too much time. Users who want to accomplish some work need Mate/Gnome3. There's no going back I'm told, so Mate appears to be the default answer. You can kinda get it working with the oauth2 support but it requires you set up an OAuth client ID and client secret first, which I don’t have access to for work account. Frankly, I was wondering how they had managed to break that function of the QCOW2 storage format. All I need for work that feeds me is one good work environment and that is MATE. List the available Desktop Environment Groups. I’ve written a detailed blog article about choosing an OS, based on past experiences. Before we actually run the installation, let's update first. 2. gnome3 appears to be a basic users desktop. Gnome3 (or Windows 8) is not it. – nothing provides pythin3-setproctitle needed by mate-optimus- The familiar workspace switcher is back, I can drag icons to the top bar again and all in all it's fast, simple and adequate. Over the next few days I'd like to sit down with some of the interested parties to discuss the best way to move forward with this as perhaps the beginning of the "Desktop SIG". That has become such a misused and abused word these days, especially by kids and young adults. The MATE community has documented how to install MATE on many distributions, please follow the install guidelines. M.Z., but unfortunately cinnamon won't add something as simple as task grouping to the window list despite numerous bugs being filed about it, leaving it for addons which are notoriously unmaintained. The first things that I do when installing a new OS is (after 'looking') at the menu ing and the RightMouseButton context menu ing , etc , is to go into the file manager and set it to 'power user' mode. for both RHEL. MATE originated from unmaintained code of GNOME 2. We have installed GNOME, KDE, Cinnamon, Mate and Xfce desktop environments. I would welcome MATE. Error: actually like Gnome. (chosing a theme “Gnome 2”) I would switch to it. When Red Hat decided to drop KDE for the subsequent release, I decided to switch the desktop clients to OpenSUSE Leap KDE. Mike's IT: https://mikeitsite.wordpress.com/ Tutorial for installing MATE Desktop on CentOS 7. If you need any assistance on QA, packaking, bug zappers or anything to make this happen don't hesitate on contacting me. With the new initiative CentOS and Fedora Stream, wouldn’t it be easier collaborate with Fedora SIGs to bring an updated version of Mate to CentOS. The MATE desktop environment, a lightweight GUI based on GNOME 2, is available as an extra for Amazon Linux 2: On-premises use: CentOS 8 is available as a virtual machine image for on-premises use: Amazon Linux 2 is available as a virtual machine image for on-premises use but optimized for AWS cloud usage. Please, use GNOME2 like Cinnamon appears to maintain the "legacy desktop" feel ala GNOME 2 and XFCE. It's easy. Should be early next week. Honestly, I can’t really choose. Please try again later. I found that it doesn't work well with GNOME application such as Evolution unless you install a GTK 3 theme. I finally gave up on it when I discovered Gnome3 developers demanding that developers of components common to both Gnome3 and XFCE must rip out features that were critical to XFCE but that Gnome3 doesn't use. It provides an intuitive and attractive desktop environment using traditional metaphors for Linux and other Unix-like operating systems. I too am a solid fan of MATE. It's OK to ask. Once I maximized FF I couldn’t figure out how to get it to not eat the entire screen–no clicky buttons on the top-right of the window, so I ended up using the left-most item at the top of the window (forget what it is named…) to choose which window I wanted in front. Thanks to the people/person(s) who did all the hard work for us! But then I am stuck with GNOME which is not suitable for my needs :-( Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): kernel = 4.7.5-200.fc24.x86_64 xrdp = xrdp-0.9.0-5.fc24.x86_64 How reproducible: Totally Steps to Reproduce: 1. The Desktop Environment that is behaving and interacting with me the old fashioned way I became productive using since forever. The bare base box may be built with the following command: packer build -var-file linux.json -var-file bare.json centos.json Have any critical vulnerabilities been fixed in the meantime? Gnome3 is for windows loving pussies that need to go back to using windows and be dictated by MS how you will use a computer and let the rest of us Linux users keep why we like using Linux in the first place! Even though it’s based on the good-old GNOME 2, the MATE team has improved the desktop environment on a lot of grounds. yum groupinstall “Xfce Desktop” –skip-broken –exclude “*adwaita-gtk2-theme*” –exclude”*logos*”, yum install mate* -x mate*devel* -x mate-menu. I think that CentOS 7 should ship with the same defaults as RHEL7, but I say 'more the merrier' to choices of desktop environments in a centosplus style repo; MATE, Cinnamon, XFCE4, whatever people want to give time to support and test. MATE is available for Centos 7. It is a simple thing to turn effects on, but not so simple to turn them off when you have poor performance. Had some problems breaking “whatprovides” for ‘system- First of all, that extension you mentioned probably didn't exist when I spent hours on end searching the web for the instructions on how hide the top bar. There are tons of extensions for Gnome 3 shell. One reason I liked using CentOS 6 was the Gnome 2 desktop. With the numerous desktop environments available nothing is different in that area. Gnome Flashback also works fine for a gnome2 experience. No way! The desktop environment has survived the transition from two toolkits upon which it was based (XForms and GTK+), and will again survive the transition to Qt or GTK3 or whatever comes next. In GNOME 3.8 it is called GNOME Classic, at least that has been my experience with Fedora 19 & 20. I think people who don't like the idea of having gnome 3 in EL7 haven't try the beta. : 04 66 63 10 32 Installation was simple and straightforward and after a reboot I was given the option to choose MATE as my DE. Have you even tried to find a way to restore the "functionality" you lost? For a project I need to write and execute Ansible scripts in a Linux environment (CentOS). That's the issue. don’t want to blend in iPad generation, I want to stay productive which I am. Better is really just an opinion. News. Now it is. So, here, we’ve created a list of the best desktop environments available for Linux distros along with their pros and cons for you. Oh,Gnome3's “Gnome classic” model is beautiful. couldn’t figure out how to set it up so I could see both at the same time. The problem with Gnome 3 is that it isn't a bunch of changes, it's a bunch of deletions. Desktop Environment (10) Connect to Windows with RDP (09) VNC Client : noVNC (08) VNC Server (07) Xrdp Server (06) Xfce Desktop (05) MATE Desktop (04) Cinnamon Desktop (03) KDE Desktop (02) Use GNOME Shell (01) GNOME Desktop; Others #1. It can be an option for those that want to install it, but no way should it be the default option. I can highly recommend it. don't change the desktop. Mate (or xfce) on top of CentOS brings me a desktop I can work in. It is as simple as that. Gnome-2 is my preferred desktop. Not the best solution but a solution. Like some libraries not recent enough? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Linux, I didn't found anything about gnome 2 (or gnome 3) in the link you posted above. I found no problems in having all three installed on the same system, so I'd argue that the best policy would be to make all three available in CentOS 7. I’ll take this time to spam my own http://srobb.net/mutt.html page. CentOS offers a rather minimal XFCE environment, but you can add any other utilities you need (e.g., web browsers, image editors) with simple sudo dnf install name_of_application commands. Discussing “best DE/WMs” is probably as pointless an exercise as discussing the respective merits of soccer clubs or motorcycle brands. Frank Cox: at Jun 13, 2015 at 1:00 am ⇧ On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 18:49:53 -0600 jd1008 wrote: I am running Centos 6.4 Could that be the issue? Best Regards. The servers are still running CentOS (and will always be running CentOS I guess). Gnome 3 is one step forward, three steps backward. That way, it can be installed automatically with Kickstart from a DVD or a CentOS.iso, whether on one or a hundred machines. What is the chance of Cinnamon? Now, I’m sure there are simple solutions to these issues, but I just don’t want to have to stop what I’m doing to google for them… anyway, I had firefox open and wanted a terminal window. Maintainable, something I can sell and teach and maintain. : 06 51 80 12 12, I moved servers from CentOS to FreeBSD… but workstations and number crunchers are all CentOS, I tried SUSE around ver 7. Then there are ids listed in centos7 that do not seem to work that do work on rhel and visa versa. Prior to giving up on Gnome3, I installed all three UIs on my Fedora desktops -- Gnome3, MATE, and Cinnamon -- to try out the options. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Quite often, training and test systems do not have Internet access. If you want something like Gnome 2 on top of Gtk 3, then Cinnamon is you best bet. :). I 'moved forward' with G3 in REHL 7 rc , Joe, the following page isn't particularly confidence inspiring. The feature set continues to be reduced, not enhanced. There might be some available from EPEL in the future, but I can’t say for certain if and when that will happen. Toggling HiDPI modes … Issues I had: I did notice while following the procedure that it failed to install pygpgme, but everything seems to be fine without it. And in the case of servers or workstations should it need it. I never came back to SUSE. Now you can connect to the server using Remote Desktop Connection. The current status is that desktops are harder to package up in EL8 and only a less feature version is available at the moment. And why should I have to do that? I don't care about which GPUs and which drivers I had, because it just works in all my other Linux distros. I dumped all my variations of Fedora, Ubuntu and Unity. Finally, CentOS 8 has been released on 24-09-2019. Thank you! The good news is that you can install MATE desktop on Ubuntu easily with the help of 3rd party repositories, just run the following commands.. When Gnome 2 was around, they always seemed to beat KDE, but now KDE is a very decent choice, and is much better than it was. Who will fix it? They still don't understand that it is not "Change" that we dislike in Gnome 3. I did fix some Ubuntu’s but never installed any. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++, If I was the creative editor I most sincerely apologize. if you like system-config-printer better than using CUPPS. After falling on our faces with Gnome 3, we went back to Windows, Linux lost momentum, out came Windows 7 which works well, and if it weren't for Windows 8 and Mate, I wouldn't even be here. I have a pretty useful desktop. I used transparent terminal a lot, particularly when the screens are full of windows and I don't want to have to switch all over the place. CentOS 6. I tried to find mate-desktop using yum with CentOS 7 base, xtras and updates but no package was found. Have a debate about the features and long term support for the next GUI and then have a "bake off" (e.g. I've tried loading large numbers of windows with huge documents/images and large collections in shotwell/rhythmbox, lots of terminal windows, enourmous numbers of Firefox tabs, recompiling a kernel, spreadsheets of the kind only 'that guy in the corner with three monitors' can produce. Have I missed something in the install of MATE? But as for a default desktop choice? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. It seems that mate-extras package is missing in the repository. For a long time I gave it benefit of the doubt and assumed these were just teething problems that would eventually be addressed. I tried hard to like/learn it but never again. So, I use Mutt (on FreeBSD, which my workstation runs, it is so easy and straightforward to install and maintain Mutt). XFCE has been around long since before Cinnamon, and before Gnome even existed. With the millions of man hours Gnome 3 has wasted, I'm not sure Linux will ever get back on track. Who said you can’t teach an old dog new tricks? Kubuntu is far better now than Ubuntu with Unity or Gnome. The newest version, CentOS 8 was released on September 24th, 2019 and it has brought some new features and capabilities. Tried all the available UI options about 4 times each. before trying the same approach with Xfce  The good news is that I got the same results but with Xfce. I've the same concerns. Just to explain it has always been a pain. 4、To have MATE boot up as the default desktop enviroment, enter the following command (the last two lines will spit out into the terminal when you run the first … It’s fair to say the distribution has gone a long (!) My printers are Brother MFC-J6520DW and MFC-J6930DW installed from the Brother supplied software using cups. I’ll see to post this in CentOS group on Facebook. My biggest complaint with GNOME are the developers, they continue to remove features with every new release, they were already doing it during the 2.x series and apparently thought with release 3 they should speed up the process. I'm using popular hardware in an HP laptop. A few other distros do a good job with MATE (Mint, Sparky), but Fedora was a really good fit on my new Dell laptop - a pleasant surprise, as I hadn't really considered Fedora in previous years. normal - user can change preferences Please provide it as an option with installation so it gets installed as default and not gnome3. I use RH in production As of lately I have been using the Mate Spin on Fedora 20 witch comes with Compiz Fusion with it. Problem 3: conflicting requests MATE is under active development to add support for new technologies while preserving a traditional desktop experience. Anyone that doesn't like Mate, just doesn't bother reading. Mate is exactly what I want. now have two CentOS 8 VMs with neither using Gnome 3. I'm willing to help with testing and filling bugs. Last metadata expiration chec: 0:15:35 ago on Sat 05 Oct 2019 09:17:39 PM CDT. When the next "big thing" comes along people will move to it in droves. I’m in a total agreement too. It's about efficency and effectiveness. The current release could be the best thing in the world but I am unlikely to try it. Are there technical reasons not to build MATE 1.8? Steps to install KDE Plasma workspace GUI on CentOS 8. Not if you care about network transparency. there is always the point release cycle opportunity I love when someone uses completely made up numbers/statistics like "overwhelming majority" - did someone do a poll that included every Linux user out there? But (I am not 100% sure) it seems that those Installation $ aptitude install x2gognomebindings . That being said, however, what are it's shortcomings in your opinion? I’m not suggesting that it will. I corrected myself, I meant above: Mate (desktop). READ: Step by Step Guide To Install CentOS 8 with Screenshots. Avoiding either Gnome 3 or something cobbled together would be worth something to me.). I dislike "click to focus". The only part that tells about the default user interface says gnome but does not specify gnome 2 or gnome. tablet _ touch (small screen) We need to maintain consistency between the two distributions. you have to spend a lot of time getting it act proper. and my RighMouseButton hurt. Barring Gnome 2, I will settle for Mate. I LOVE new things , I am addicted to new modes of music , learning science , reading books , and installing new OS es & software. Whereas downloaded and build kernel from kernel.org (with all default options) on the same SAUSE box successfully killed offender with OOM killer, and was standing like a rock. Although, with all the functionality they ripped out of Gnome 2 to get to Gnome 3, it should be easy to keep stable. Troubleshooting: Wie Sie die streikende Oberfläche wieder reanimieren. I prefer MATE as a desktop environment, as it's simple yet attractive. But that means compiling MATE in EPEL should be straightforward, just recompile Fedora 28 packages.